This is post is part of a series of replies. If you landed here first, please see the intro post here.
Ron wrote: Matthew 24 doesn’t reference a dual night/day setting. That’s why i didn’t use it.
Of course you didn’t use it. Matthew 24 basically infers that judgment will come to Israel and nowhere else. How else would one escape it by fleeing to the mountains?
It’s generally agreed that those verses in Matt 24 are actually referring to the destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd coming. And BTW those that fled to the mountains when Rome leveled Jerusalem were spared.
Note to Elsa: Before you begin reading my reply. It might help you to understand better where I am coming from. You can do that best by listening to this teaching/sermon called Hell’s Best Kept Secret. It’s meant to teach Christians how to share their faith, but if you will take the time to listen it will give me a point of reference and keep me from a lot more typing. And while you might not agree, you’ll at least understand my game plan.
To Elsa and the rest of the Internet: Because of the huge amount of material in Elsa’s comment (here) and because it takes us so off course from the original theme of my post about Ron Paul, I have started a series of posts to handle each point. Some will not go much further, but I would imagine some will take on a whole new life of their own as well.
My Ron Paul on Evolution post continues to get a lot of comments. Gary’s latest comment brought up an excellent point I had not thought of before.
…Also, the Theory of Evolution does not accept a perfect original creation. It has death and destruction at the beginning. Scripture teaches that the original creation was perfect, then marred by sin, then death was placed upon it by God as a curse. Death before sin contradicts Scripture. If death was rampant for millions of years before Adam sinned, which would be the case according to the Theory of Evolution, then how could it be a curse placed upon creation by God? If that is the case, then death is normal, not abnormal. It undermines the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ to redeem people from the curse of sin and death….
GOP CANDIDATE ROMNEY PROFESSES BELIEF IN THEISTIC EVOLUTION
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is trying to clarify for the public some points about his religious beliefs. For instance, he says he embraces the theory of evolution but also believes an intelligent designer created the Earth. http://www.onenewsnow.com
One can only wonder if by “Intelligent Designer” Romney (a Mormon) means the God of the scriptures is that designer. Oh wait, they don’t believe the scriptures to begin with, so the point it moot.
Really this is just political verbal gymnastics. Here are some things he could say:
“I’m for Traditional Marriage.. even for homosexuals”
“I’m against abortion.. but for a woman’s right to choose.” (oh look, he’s already said something like that)
The debate over whether Creationism and Evolutionary Theory should be taught in schools has been raging for some time, therefore it is a political issue; and an important one for most conservatives. Those in office should have done the math (or should i say science) but my guess is most have not and just jumped on the “don’t argue with science.” bandwagon. I would have liked to have an “undecided” or “who hasn’t done their homework” show of hands. Regardless of the theology involved, it is a clear example of states rights and the role of the federal government within the local school districts.
Where someone stands on origins also matters because it typically defines their social policies.
For instance, the more you see someone “made in the image of God”, there more you should see the worth of that child or adult; regardless of their benefit to society.
On the other hand, the more you see us as something that “randomly mutated from fish” the more you are going to see all life (human and non-human) as expendable, or as some people having more worth than others who may be “less beneficial” to society.
So yeah, it matters. I just wish I could ask each candidate a follow up:
Why do you or do you not believe in evolution? Because there is where you would get some real insight.
Incidentally, Darwin’s Theory is still just that.— THEORY.
“There are gaps in the fossil graveyard, places where there should be intermediate forms, but where there is nothing whatsoever instead. No paleontologist . . . denies that this is so. It is simply a fact. Darwin’s theory and the fossil record are in conflict.” David Berlinski, Ph. D.
“If you want to believe that you and your family came from apes, that’s fine. I’ll accept that,” he said Friday. “I just don’t happen to think that I did.”
As for what should be taught in public schools, Huckabee said he wants “schools to acknowledge that there are views that are different than evolution.”
See my last post for more on the origins (no pun intended) of his comments.
Update 1 (written when I still understood Paul to believe in Evolution): Much to my surprise this post remains one of the most active on my site. So, I think it is necessary to clarify that Ron Paul’s views on evolution alone do not disqualify him from receiving my vote. I like many of Ron Paul’s comments concerning the Constitutionality of various things. It’s where Rep Paul and I have strong common ground. But this is a campaign and don’t let debate sound-bites override the facts. Investigate. Start with their voting records. Now, on to my original post:
As I investigate whom I will vote for, I found the list got a lot shorter after the first debate.
Does Ron Paul believe in evolution? I didn’t see his hand raised in the debate when asked “who does not believe in evolution.”
Thanks for your quick reply.
Thank you,
Ron Shank
They quickly replied.
——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Didn’t see his hand
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 16:15:06 -0400
From: Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee
To: Ron Shank
Ron,
Ron Paul did not raise his hand during that question, it was Tancredo, Huckabee & Brownback who raised their hands. Dr. Paul is physician and believes in evolution.
For me, this narrows it down to these three to further investigate.
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