My Ron Paul on Evolution post continues to get a lot of comments. Gary’s latest comment brought up an excellent point I had not thought of before.
…Also, the Theory of Evolution does not accept a perfect original creation. It has death and destruction at the beginning. Scripture teaches that the original creation was perfect, then marred by sin, then death was placed upon it by God as a curse. Death before sin contradicts Scripture. If death was rampant for millions of years before Adam sinned, which would be the case according to the Theory of Evolution, then how could it be a curse placed upon creation by God? If that is the case, then death is normal, not abnormal. It undermines the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ to redeem people from the curse of sin and death….
Be sure and watch the video clip. There’s a great quote in it from Richard Viguerie who says: “They have said to the American people, ‘We have one guiding principle above anything else, and that is power. We are nominating somebody who can help us hold on to power.’ And at that point in time, perhaps it would be appropriate to begin the process of putting the Republican party out of it’s misery.”
ABC News: Christian Conservatives Weigh GOP Split
Those at the smaller meeting included James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, and Richard Viguerie, a direct mail pioneer, who recently authored “Conservatives Betrayed: How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Republican Base.”
Viguerie told ABC News that the meeting was attended by “nationally known conservative leaders, and we took a very strong stand against supporting any pro-abortion candidate.
“Giuliani is beyond the pale,” Viguerie said. “It’s just not going to happen. There’s no way that conservative leaders are going to support a pro-abortion candidate. It was unanimous.”
Sentiment among his fellow “value voter conservatives” was so strong, Viguerie said, there was “overwhelming support to consider that idea” of a third-party presidential candidate in the event that Giuliani wins the Republican presidential nomination.
Such a move is not a “done deed,” he said, but he described how he’d been angry at the Republican Party for six years. “In the last six months, I’ve seen a vast majority of my colleagues, at the national level, move in that direction, including a willingness to go third party. They’re even further along on the third-party idea than I am,” Viguerie said.
We can only hope. Well, actually I don’t care what party they belong to, as long as they are the right on the issues.
OneNewsNow.com has Gary Bauer saying, “So I hope that we can, as a movement, be very wise about this, and not savage candidates that we may very well have to support in 2008 if they’re running against Hillary Clinton.”
Let me be clear. I am done with the lesser of two evils garbage. I have been for a long time. I didn’t vote for Bush either time because of it. Oh I know.. then I’m “throwing my vote away” by not voting for someone who can actually win. Right (sarcasm). I’d say it’s the opposite that is true. Voting for someone you don’t think is the best person for the job is throwing your vote away.
Frankly, I’m surprised and a little disappointed to see Gary Baurer with the GOP kool-aid mustache.
“I believe that God designed the universe and created the universe,” Mr. Romney said in an interview this week. “And I believe evolution is most likely the process he used to create the human body.”
He was asked: Is that intelligent design?
“I’m not exactly sure what is meant by intelligent design,” he said. “But I believe God is intelligent and I believe he designed the creation. And I believe he used the process of evolution to create the human body.”
I haven’t heard a better example of double-speak, since Bill Clinton wrote me “while personally against abortion I… ” (you can fill in the rest)
For clarification the Bible says this: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7)
I’m not sure what the Book of Mormon says happened when God created man. But I don’t think it says we are the decedents of fish, Gov. Romney.
“Republican presidential hopeful Sam Brownback on Monday telephoned rival Mitt Romney to apologize for a campaign staffer’s e-mail criticizing the Mormon church.”
It seems I’m missing something but, I am unclear what’s Browback apologizing for here? Is he saying what someone believes is non-relevant? Or is he saying, “because I went from Protestant to Catholic, I don’t want matters of faith brought up.”
So I’m curious what you think. Does it matter if someone running for president is:
Mormon?
Atheist?
Muslim?
Scientologist?
Branch-Davidian?
Believes in UFOs?
Believes Elvis is alive?
OneNewsNow.com reports Lou Sheldon is backing Gov. Mitt Romney for President.
What bothers me the most are Sheldon’s responses. First where he says he won’t back others on the ticket because…
“…it would be impractical to endorse one of them because winning the White House requires a lot of money and a large, experienced staff like Romney has.”
In other words, “I am betting on the horse with the best odds”, or “I am not concerned about principle, as much as I am winning.” More disturbing than that however is his defense of Romney’s Mormonism.
“He reads the Bible regularly. He has said — and I asked him — that he has received Jesus Christ as his personal Savior,” the pastor declares. “He believes that Jesus Christ is the divine Son of God, only Son of God divine, and was crucified, buried and raised from the dead for our behalf. So, I think as he addresses those issues, that’s certainly going to ignite good feeling [among Christians].”
First, Mormonism is a cult.Lou Sheldon certainly knows that. They frequently use similar terms as Christianity, but have a completely different understanding of things such as God, Jesus Christ, Salvation, Heaven, Hell, etc.
Secondly, IF Romney were truly born-again, he would repent and leave the Mormon Church or at the very least be extremely uncomfortable within it and in the process of leaving. Before some of you explode on me, no, I can not judge whether a person is truly saved, but we can look for visible signs of repentance and faith in Christ. If he just lacks knowledge, I’ll pray that he finds the truth and leaves the church he so adamantly defends.
According to this short quiz, Tancredo and Hunter are the current candidates that lineup most with my political positions. Tancredo got a score of 70% overall. Hunter 65%. Interesting Ron Paul (whose “The-Constitution-says-this-the-Constitution-says-that” message really appeals to me) only scores a 40% and 19% on social issues. That puts him just a few points ahead of Joe Biden! Also real interesting to me is that Rudy is lower than Bill Richardson. That should tell you something right there. Not that I ever thought he was conservative.
And the UMC (of which I am a member) continues to wonder why the denomination is loosing membership.
Minister Clayton Childers of the Capitol Hill-based United Methodist Board of Church and Society said the presence of a national flag can imply endorsement of national policies, which often are counter to the teachings of Christ. Childers even noted that the Swastika flag was displayed prominently in German churches during the Nazi era.
Mark Tooley is with the Institute on Religion and Democracy (IRD). “Obviously,” he notes, “there are a number of serious problems with that Nazi-American analogy; but one of the problems, of course, is that American churches display the American flag completely voluntarily. No one is compelling them to do it — whereas, of course, in Nazi Germany the totalitarian state compelled its churches not only to display the flag but to support the government’s policies.”
GOP CANDIDATE ROMNEY PROFESSES BELIEF IN THEISTIC EVOLUTION
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is trying to clarify for the public some points about his religious beliefs. For instance, he says he embraces the theory of evolution but also believes an intelligent designer created the Earth. http://www.onenewsnow.com
One can only wonder if by “Intelligent Designer” Romney (a Mormon) means the God of the scriptures is that designer. Oh wait, they don’t believe the scriptures to begin with, so the point it moot.
Really this is just political verbal gymnastics. Here are some things he could say:
“I’m for Traditional Marriage.. even for homosexuals”
“I’m against abortion.. but for a woman’s right to choose.” (oh look, he’s already said something like that)
The debate over whether Creationism and Evolutionary Theory should be taught in schools has been raging for some time, therefore it is a political issue; and an important one for most conservatives. Those in office should have done the math (or should i say science) but my guess is most have not and just jumped on the “don’t argue with science.” bandwagon. I would have liked to have an “undecided” or “who hasn’t done their homework” show of hands. Regardless of the theology involved, it is a clear example of states rights and the role of the federal government within the local school districts.
Where someone stands on origins also matters because it typically defines their social policies.
For instance, the more you see someone “made in the image of God”, there more you should see the worth of that child or adult; regardless of their benefit to society.
On the other hand, the more you see us as something that “randomly mutated from fish” the more you are going to see all life (human and non-human) as expendable, or as some people having more worth than others who may be “less beneficial” to society.
So yeah, it matters. I just wish I could ask each candidate a follow up:
Why do you or do you not believe in evolution? Because there is where you would get some real insight.
Incidentally, Darwin’s Theory is still just that.— THEORY.
“There are gaps in the fossil graveyard, places where there should be intermediate forms, but where there is nothing whatsoever instead. No paleontologist . . . denies that this is so. It is simply a fact. Darwin’s theory and the fossil record are in conflict.” David Berlinski, Ph. D.
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